The acceptance and rejection on particular comics styles

[k4rna]

There are three mainstream comics industry that approaches most of our readers.
:pompom: The obvious one is Japanese manga (including Korean Manhwa, Hongkong Manhua, as such).
:pompom: Then, American superheroes (also appears in movies theater and TV series).
:pompom: Last one, the European comics art, before the invasion of manga, the comic-world were heavily influenced by cartoons from British and American (so-called Anglo(saxon)-American language).

Please, share with us your opinion, as a comics activist (reader or creator) your truly authentic feels about those three comics styles (both their art style or storytelling) as honest as you can. :love:
And please, before or after giving your thought here, please do fill the polling above.I'm truly deeply appreciate that. Thank you so much.
:hoye:

[leonardpruitt07]

Finally, as has been the case in each of these contests, many of the current entries have focused on bishojo, giant robots, ninja and the like, leaving a very narrow impression of “manga” style. As the judges are Japanese, we are biased toward a more creative association for the word that foreigners have come to know as “MANGA.” We cannot define exactly what manga is, but our version of manga is much broader in context and content. Nowadays Japan uses labels like “American Comics,” “Bande Dessinée,” and “Cartoons.” Ten years ago, however, the Japanese language would apply the word “manga” to encompass all sequential art. With that in mind we originally called this contest the Morning International Manga Competion, but that name is no longer adequate. So, from the Fourth Edition on, we call for a greater variety of genres in your submissions as we rename the contest the MORNING INTERNATIONAL COMIC COMPETITION.

more info at official site http://www.e-morning.jp/mimc/result3/english.html

k4rna, I'm still searching for a storymaker(anyone that can make up a story). I don't have specific style. My art looks depends on the Ideas and story.

[ted57p304940905]

They should be use the word 'comics' with 's', otherwise it will turn to be 'comic' funny – laughter. But, anyway, it is just unofficial agreement amongst comics scholars. I'am aware about the diversities of manga, but this discrimination is still there, and even the wrong vision on manga still haunting the market and the public.
All those three mainstream industry have their own historical tradition which today crossing each-other. At the past, japanese manga was well-known of cheap and sexy pictures, while american comics known by their muscles and sexy figure. Allowed me to quote the words from Taiyo Matsumoto who'd travel  for discovering artistic research throughout France:
“American comics are powerful and cool. European comics seem very intellectual. And Japanese comics are very light-hearted.”

So, the competition should used the words 'comic (or comics' if they officially expanded to international audiences. But, they don't have to change 'manga' in their native speech or written. Use 'manga' to japanese audience coz it is their native term for all kind of comics. But because the event is for international audience, therefore they need to use 'comics'.

Storymaker? Perhaps some of this forum's member could help. I have an idea about love story that takes setting on confrontation between Japan and Korea at the past. A kind of triangle love story. A boy who become a kamikaze pilot in war with Korea. But, he survived and saved by a korean girl and her mom. This Korean girl fell in love with the Japanese boy, yet her mother was disagree coz her husband was killed by Japanese soldier. Finally, the boy had to leave Korea and return to Japan. He had a monkey-love partner there in his village which looks similar with the korean girl. At the end, the korean girl sacrifice herself to cover the boy from gun-firing. Can the village where he belongs recover or heal his broken heart?

Well, we have seen many Japanese manga covering story with setting from the western (states or europe), can we create similar approaches by creating story with global setting but in the local touch and sense?

[leonardpruitt07]

“think outside the box” that's what Kodansha and Morning magazine do to find fresher ideas from outside of Japan.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bakuman/ manga publish also by Kodansha on topic in what it take to be a good mangaka.

They should be use the word 'comics' with 's', otherwise it will turn to be 'comic' funny – laughter. But, anyway, it is just unofficial agreement amongst comics scholars. I'am aware about the diversities of manga, but this discrimination is still there, and even the wrong vision on manga still haunting the market and the public.
All those three mainstream industry have their own historical tradition which today crossing each-other. At the past, japanese manga was well-known of cheap and sexy pictures, while american comics known by their muscles and sexy figure. Allowed me to quote the words from Taiyo Matsumoto who'd travel  for discovering artistic research throughout France:
“American comics are powerful and cool. European comics seem very intellectual. And Japanese comics are very light-hearted.”

So, the competition should used the words 'comic (or comics' if they officially expanded to international audiences. But, they don't have to change 'manga' in their native speech or written. Use 'manga' to japanese audience coz it is their native term for all kind of comics. But because the event is for international audience, therefore they need to use 'comics'.

Storymaker? Perhaps some of this forum's member could help. I have an idea about love story that takes setting on confrontation between Japan and Korea at the past. A kind of triangle love story. A boy who become a kamikaze pilot in war with Korea. But, he survived and saved by a korean girl and her mom. This Korean girl fell in love with the Japanese boy, yet her mother was disagree coz her husband was killed by Japanese soldier. Finally, the boy had to leave Korea and return to Japan. He had a monkey-love partner there in his village which looks similar with the korean girl. At the end, the korean girl sacrifice herself to cover the boy from gun-firing. Can the village where he belongs recover or heal his broken heart?

Well, we have seen many Japanese manga covering story with setting from the western (states or europe), can we create similar approaches by creating story with global setting but in the local touch and sense?

With Internet things already getting blurred.

Well the deadline is 31st December 2009, most people I know says its still early. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_and_Wolf Library freedom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshokan_Sens%C5%8D or even agriculture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyashimon

Interesting comic as in Story, Visual and how the story is told thru visual ie Storytelling

[ted57p304940905]

before we try to so called 'think out of the box', first and foremost perhaps we should know what is 'the box' and how do we know it is 'the box'. Because sometime we need not to go outside but search into our very soul inside.

Somehow, the slogan 'think out of the box' seems so often cliche, while in the meantime we never actually come closer to 'what is called thinking'?

the visual or the storytelling of comics doesn't inferred what is actually the whole 'comics' really are. We could make similar story but with totally different ideologies, which will turn the 'decision' in storyline totally different. Or by making simple story but without prejudice, predetermination, to come up with 'nothing' but just a 'life' that belongs to every individual but never actually 'aware' of their own living choices. just my two cents.

I first read Oinshibo, wrote by Tetsu Kariya/drawn by Akira Hanasaki, in 2002, it's all too ordinary, but I like it. Then I lost 'contact' with these series. And it quite surprise because now it came with paperback collected edition (or you may called takobon). This manga story appeared long before the demand of culinary such today. I don't read trendy comicbooks, I treat comicbooks as much as other books. I read them because they're meaningful for me. Meaningful means it probably inspiring, makes us smile, become aware of something, etc.
TO be different is good, to try being different is even better. But to turn something ordinary into spectacular stuff is not an easy task. I'd love the works of Jiro Taniguchi in Aruku Hito (the walking man) and Toudo no Tabibto (The Ice Wanderer) both comics give such a sense of warm, comfortable, anguish almost at the same time.

[leonardpruitt07]

I pretty hate 2cents it makes me want to make other people 10cents.

“Oinshibo” can't find it on google. =__=

Its not an easy task, but its not Impossible. Unless proven otherwise.

In my opinion. What makes comic/manga having high “Demand” isn't all entertainment.  It drives the reader, motivates, encourage, and even spew realization to the readers.

For example “Slam Dunk” had influence Japanese youth to play basketball. But that didn't happen much for “Prince of Tennis”. Why is that?

My simple answer would, “Prince of Tennis has too much fantasy in it”.

“Popular Trend”. That's interesting and pretty similar to old age argument of Fine Art and Graphic. Actually there wasn't much argument about that. Each have their own audience.

I have feeling conflicting of being Patriotic and Fun. Nationalism never really cared about it because it really never motivates me.

Being patriotic, I really want to make something that can motivates the reader in this country.

Being fun, I so want to create mindless destruction, sexy girls, lots of Mecha/guns and last but not least saving the world. Maybe I am still an Idiot. =__=

Back to original topic “The acceptance and rejection on particular comics styles”

My current plan is… Art style? I'll stick with cliche/typical manga(Easy to be accept) style but I'll work hard in making interesting story.

Still the best “Art Style” for me is the one that “Visualize” greatly the story/ideas. Agree?

[mysticmind]

I just remember a single but powerful phrase in Bakuman :
“The manga is only need to be INTERESTING!. That's all!”.

It may apply to comics and similarity things too.  :wink

[leonardpruitt07]

I just remember a single but powerful phrase in Bakuman :
“The manga is only need to be INTERESTING!. That's all!”.

It may apply to comics and similarity things too.  :wink

Interesting Comic Styles!

And now to brush off “third world” mentality in newbies like me that that such mentality is irrelevant in art. I have Deviantart(US) http://masquevale.deviantart.com/ and Pixiv(Japan) http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=911657 and…cool I am competing globally.

I as a reader don't really find that Popcorn comics is better than Robot comics. I as an artist having time making something better than the things in Popcorn. =__=

INTERESTING comic style.

[brentonlanning]

Kan best klu korg suma sembang dlm melayu.senang.
mesti ramai yg join thread ni.

[petrakhus]

xan tak kisah la artstyle dari India pon janji cerita dia best, heran btol la kenapa org obses sgt dgn artstyle ni smpai nak prejudis dgn sesetgh artstyle nih, art ialah subjektif, xde pilihan yg tetap, bgantung la kat mata kpala sapa yg menilai lukisan tuh.

ntah la, penat speaking berabok nih.

[niJam]

story come first

[petrakhus]

btol2 kalu nak tgk artstyle baik beli artbook jer.

[leonardpruitt07]

story come first

Its the lasting value.

btol2 kalu nak tgk artstyle baik beli artbook jer.

…waiting for Xan's artbook.

[mysticmind]

story = is all about.

artstyle = is your identity.

no story artstyle buruk = rubbish.
no story artstyle (tipikal) ada = jamuan mata
ada cerita lukisan buruk = potensi
ada cerita biasa, lukisan baik tapi biasa = tipikal

ada cerita amatlah menarik susah jumpe… pastuh lukisan plak ok walaupun tidaklah menarik sangat tapi unik dan berbeza tidak seperti yang bersepah2 sama sana sini itu.

this is what we called it…. LEGEND!

[leonardpruitt07]

story = is all about.

artstyle = is your identity.

no story artstyle buruk = rubbish.
no story artstyle (tipikal) ada = jamuan mata
ada cerita lukisan buruk = potensi
ada cerita biasa, lukisan baik tapi biasa = tipikal

ada cerita amatlah menarik susah jumpe… pastuh lukisan plak ok walaupun tidaklah menarik sangat tapi unik dan berbeza tidak seperti yang bersepah2 sama sana sini itu.

this is what we called it…. LEGEND!

TOPGEAR punya tone, dasyat.

Acceptance and Rejection on particular comic style:
1: Friends influence
2: Attracted to the comic style because of The Story(Interesting story)
3: Nationalism is one thing that makes malaysian dislike manga style, and more towards US and UK(The culprit behind nationalism ideology in Arab country ). Japanese invasion of Malaya.
4: Motivation, Too many superhero comic books isn't going to make a soccer player play better. Take Supa Strikas for example.
5: Artistic freedom.

PS: I'm so sorry it was me. That take off, the thread away from the subject.

[ted57p304940905]

Clarification sket.
Sy tulis tu 'comics style', maksudnyer bukan sahaja 'drawing style' @ 'storytelling', tapi kedua-duanya tak terpisahkan mcm couple yg bersumpah sehidup semati (tp bukan satu hidup, satu mati yer).
Ketiga arus perdana industri komik mempunyai sejarah dan tradisinya masing-masing. Ketiganya telah pula mempengaruhi 'dunia komik' di merata dunia.

Pertanyaan adalah setakat mana penerimaan dan penolakan kita kepada jenis-jenis stail komik tersebut?

[bbutler1001986]

Penerimaan dan penolakan kita terhadap stail itu tergantung juga pada pendedahan kepada stail tersebut… Misalnya pengaruh gaya Jepun sudah luas dan lama didedahkan, disebarkan di Malaysia berbanding stail Amerika & Eropah. Tak hairan sekarang ramai yang lebih cenderung pada gaya Jepun kerana mereka mula belajar dari situ.

Kenapa komik Jepun lebih banyak disebarkan? Sebab lebih banyak tarikannya.

Tamat aku membebel…

[leonardpruitt07]

Clarification sket.
Sy tulis tu 'comics style', maksudnyer bukan sahaja 'drawing style' @ 'storytelling', tapi kedua-duanya tak terpisahkan mcm couple yg bersumpah sehidup semati (tp bukan satu hidup, satu mati yer).
Ketiga arus perdana industri komik mempunyai sejarah dan tradisinya masing-masing. Ketiganya telah pula mempengaruhi 'dunia komik' di merata dunia.

Pertanyaan adalah setakat mana penerimaan dan penolakan kita kepada jenis-jenis stail komik tersebut?

Sejak Kalah dalam MIMC yg ketiga http://www.e-morning.jp/mimc/result3/english.html saya dah tak kisah apa komik style sekalipun, saya nak karya yang boleh “Menang”. Itu saya sebagai pelukis. Tapi tamparan tersebut juga merubah saya sebagai “Pembaca”. Buat pertama kali dua bahagian diri bersetuju yamg kami ingin menghasilkan dan membaca karya yang menarik.

That's also includes interesting comic styles.

balik kepada “The acceptance and rejection on particular comics styles”

Sentimen dan budaya masyarakat memainkan peranan dalam penerimaan sesuatu gaya.

Contoh:
Penerimaan Saya terhadap “Manga Style”. Di masa mudah masa terluang saya diisi dengan Manga “comic house”, Ujang dan Gila-Gila. Pada satu peringkat ia tidak lagi dalam masa terluang saya.

Ini kerana saya lebih gemar terhadap karya yang lebih lawa. And as we can see the poll in anugerah Pekomik http://anugerahpekomik.blogspot.com/ Popcorn 43% dan Gempak 35%. Sure k4rna less prefer trendy to opt for much more “Thoughtful” works, I also agree with that.

That doesn't mean Thoughtful works cannot have beautiful comic style. Unless the story needs the “Style” to be ugly in horror comic that can be too.

Even “Deviantart” is a USA online community, anyone who visit the first page will always find more than One generic “manga anime style” http://www.deviantart.com/ american comic in the first is pretty “rare”.

My simple explanation “manga anime style” is much more “beautiful”

Back to acceptance. I like such of comic style of of the story it brings. But that is just my opinion.

Popular opinion(based on majority) like that sort of style and the rest don't. Its a majority VS minority argument etc.

Before the reader get to the story, he/she has to go through the Visual(Drawing Style, layouts etc)

story = is all about.

artstyle = is your identity.

no story artstyle buruk = rubbish.
no story artstyle (tipikal) ada = jamuan mata
ada cerita lukisan buruk = potensi
ada cerita biasa, lukisan baik tapi biasa = tipikal

ada cerita amatlah menarik susah jumpe… pastuh lukisan plak ok walaupun tidaklah menarik sangat tapi unik dan berbeza tidak seperti yang bersepah2 sama sana sini itu.

this is what we called it…. LEGEND!

He's speaking like an artist. But I as a “reader” look first at the Visual/Drawings/Style before the story.

Reader: Artstyle–>>StoryTelling–>>Story
Artist: Story–>>Storytelling–>>Artsyle

Successful artist think both ways. That is what I'm trying to emulate currently.

To put simply Artist make the comic like he/she is actually reading it.

There are three mainstream comics industry that approaches most of our readers.
:pompom: The obvious one is Japanese manga (including Korean Manhwa, Hongkong Manhua, as such).
:pompom: Then, American superheroes (also appears in movies theater and TV series).
:pompom: Last one, the European comics art, before the invasion of manga, the comic-world were heavily influenced by cartoons from British and American (so-called Anglo(saxon)-American language).

Please, share with us your opinion, as a comics activist (reader or creator) your truly authentic feels about those three comics styles (both their art style or storytelling) as honest as you can. :love:
And please, before or after giving your thought here, please do fill the polling above.I'm truly deeply appreciate that. Thank you so much.
:hoye:

I've clouded by my thoughts and it does take me off elsewhere. So I'll answer it directly:

I like all three comic style stated above, because I've read too much of those. To a point I don't really are about the “Art” because I've been “desensitize” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitization psychology . Its pretty difficult for me to feel awe towards gundam because I've seen lots of them. I only care about the story it brings.

Hope it helps.

[ted57p304940905]

euw, desensitization lak. hehe mungkin tak sampai macam tu kot, mungkin you read till get saturated.
Kalau sampai desensitization, betul cakap en.Wertham, komik tu seduction of innocent, komik is a violence media. takutnyer…

[date Alexa and Sheila www.kvarteka.com]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Tak semestinya si A akan mengatakan lukisan (contohnya) si Benjamin yang liar dengan warnatu 'beautiful',mungkin dia lebih sukakan lukisan (cth) Bill Watterson,yang dianggapnya lebih 'beautiful' sebab cerita tentang imaginasi seorang 6-year old dan kehidupannya.

Sejujurnya,saya bukanlah seorang yang bergiat aktif dalam dunia komik ni.Saya ni jenis terbuka dengan semua jenis seni,tak kira muzik,videografi,performance art,bla-bla..Cuma seni komik ni ada perhatian lebih skit,mungkin sesuai ngan jiwa sendiri kot.hehe.

Apa yang boleh dikatakan ialah,tak kira style apa pun yang korang pakai,if you put your heart and soul in it,it will show.Bila orang perasan usaha yang diletakkan korang,diorang akan appreciate.Tak kisah korang pakai style jepun,amerika,fiji,india and whatnot.

Points to ponder; style hanyalah sebuah medium,'bahasa'.Ianya boleh ditranslate ke 'bahasa' lain.Tapi,keindahan sasuatu karya tu kadang2,hanya terserlah bila ianya berada didalam 'bahasa'nya yang tersendiri.Karya Shakespeare tak sama indah kalau di'translate' ke BM,dan sebaliknya bagi karya2 lain.

Oh ye,seperti kata En.Azhar,story comes first.”Si cantik jelita akan menjadi tua dan hodoh kelak,tetapi kisah hidupnya akan terpahat dihati manusia serata dunia.”

Saya bukanlah seorang yang pandai ke,terer ke,tapi style tu macam,bagi seseorang tu tak penting asalkan dirinya dapat mengekspresikan diri sepenuhnya menggunakan style tu.Kecuali bagi mereka yang hidup mati kerana komik,memang kena ikut trend skit jugakla.

[warrdina]

pada aku cerita yg dpt menarik orang tu lah paling utama sekali utk menarik org terima atau tak satu2 style..

cth paling simple appeal si sinchan tu la…lukisan simple nak mampus…tp boleh dikatakan peminat dia ramai n orang terima style simple tu.

1 sen dari pembaca komik

[blichius1963]

aku da bosan bca kbyakan komik2 artsquare..story diorng sngt tipikal w/pn aku rase diorng cuba mncari kelainn..soryla komik len aku xbca sngt psl malas nk breksperimen..aku generalize most of them amik formula sama iaitu dr jepun..

[leonardpruitt07]

aku da bosan bca kbyakan komik2 artsquare..story diorng sngt tipikal w/pn aku rase diorng cuba mncari kelainn..soryla komik len aku xbca sngt psl malas nk breksperimen..aku generalize most of them amik formula sama iaitu dr jepun..

Cuba buat story 6page bagi pada saya. Saya lukis. Kemudian saya hantar pada ArtSquare. Diterima, bayaran semua kamu ambil. Ahli pergh saksi. Okey bagi kamu?

[warrdina]

org yg suka menonton satu2 cerita tak semestinya dia tau buat cerita masquavale

sama la mcm suka satu2 jenis game ataupun game reviewer…bukannya mesti tau buat game…betul tak?

[leonardpruitt07]

org yg suka menonton satu2 cerita tak semestinya dia tau buat cerita masquavale

sama la mcm suka satu2 jenis game ataupun game reviewer…bukannya mesti tau buat game…betul tak?

Cerita menarik ada tak? Tolonglah. Tengah kempunan ni. Jangan risau saya lukis lawa-lawa nanti. TT_TT

[blichius1963]

Cerita menarik ada tak? Tolonglah. Tengah kempunan ni. Jangan risau saya lukis lawa-lawa nanti. TT_TT

define cerita menarik..
cerita yg menarik trlalu subjektik..try n error je lh drp ko duk minta sana sini..mnkn ko leh wt sndri tp in same time tnya pndapt org len cmne nk kembangkn..

mencari cite yg menarik ni ibarat mencari kepok yg sedap..ade org xkesah kepok jenis ape pn janji kepok..ikan skit byk sagu pn belasah je sume asalkn kepok..ade org pntingkn kualiti..ikan kena banyak dan goreng pn kembang molek..tp bukan sume org taw kualiti cmne yg dicari..bg yg taw mnkn akan lebih spesifik cmne nk cari, kepok ikan parang saje xnk ikan tambang atau lebih spesifik lg xnk atas pasar nk kepok pengkalan setor je..tp yg xtaw ni akn terus mncari..so sape target ko??..org bodoh yg just nk baca komik..org bodoh yg rase dia taw menilai komik atau org bijak yg taw komik cmne yg dicari??..tp berbaloi ke invest utk golongn yg kononnya bijak menilai??..akhir kata tepuk dada tanyalh selera..xyah la duk memekak sana sini duk cari tukang cerita..spesifik kn dulu citer cmne yg ko nk then baru kita sama2 diskas..

[leonardpruitt07]

define cerita menarik..
cerita yg menarik trlalu subjektik..try n error je lh drp ko duk minta sana sini..mnkn ko leh wt sndri tp in same time tnya pndapt org len cmne nk kembangkn..

mencari cite yg menarik ni ibarat mencari kepok yg sedap..ade org xkesah kepok jenis ape pn janji kepok..ikan skit byk sagu pn belasah je sume asalkn kepok..ade org pntingkn kualiti..ikan kena banyak dan goreng pn kembang molek..tp bukan sume org taw kualiti cmne yg dicari..bg yg taw mnkn akan lebih spesifik cmne nk cari, kepok ikan parang saje xnk ikan tambang atau lebih spesifik lg xnk atas pasar nk kepok pengkalan setor je..tp yg xtaw ni akn terus mncari..so sape target ko??..org bodoh yg just nk baca komik..org bodoh yg rase dia taw menilai komik atau org bijak yg taw komik cmne yg dicari??..tp berbaloi ke invest utk golongn yg kononnya bijak menilai??..akhir kata tepuk dada tanyalh selera..xyah la duk memekak sana sini duk cari tukang cerita..spesifik kn dulu citer cmne yg ko nk then baru kita sama2 diskas..

Anugerah Pekomik, Anugerah muzik dan etc. usaha untuk “mengObjektifkan” seni.

Sebenarnya saya ada minat nak buat cerita usahawan keropok lekor, tak buat research lagi.

Contoh:- feeqry dia tutor engineering, dah tahu dia “pakar” bab itu, jadi saya minta dia buat cerita engineering.

Saya suka Ekonomi, perdagangan, akademik, sistem komunikasi, kejuruteraan, sukan, perkilangan, public maintenance, kaji cuaca, pertanian, penternakan, perikanan, kajian, perubatan, construction, interior design, architecture, dan perkara-perkara yang berkaitan dengan pembangunan dan kemajuan negara Malaysia. (Politik, tidak mahu kerana alasan tertentu)

cukup tidak? Jangan kata pula perkara2 diatas terlalu banyak limitasi pula.

[ted57p304940905]

another clarification, just a bit.
Acceptance dan Rejection.
Ke2-2nyer dalam pandangan positif, ambik contoh masa kita browsing komik-komik kat kedai buku, pada masa ketika aku ambik satu @ lebih buku komik tu itulah moment acceptance, lepas tu baca sket review kat belakang (kalu ader), pegi kaunter maklumat, buka plastik, tengok isi dalam, skim – fast reading . . . ader rasa yg x kene, kita tolak tepi kejap, itulah moment rejection.
Jadi, masa kita memilih buku komik yang kita tak tau langsung aper konten, saper pelukis, etc. selalu ader moment 'penerimaan' dan 'penolakan'.

Aper yg buat seseorang tu decided to accept or to reject?
Kalu gambar lawa, apa yang lawa? Camner yang lawa dalam perspective sendiri? Apa yang awak rasa lawa dari gambar komik tu? etc.

(ini setakat contoh jer, tak semestinya mcm yg sy tulis ini)

[leonardpruitt07]

another clarification, just a bit.
Acceptance dan Rejection.
Ke2-2nyer dalam pandangan positif, ambik contoh masa kita browsing komik-komik kat kedai buku, pada masa ketika aku ambik satu @ lebih buku komik tu itulah moment acceptance, lepas tu baca sket review kat belakang (kalu ader), pegi kaunter maklumat, buka plastik, tengok isi dalam, skim – fast reading . . . ader rasa yg x kene, kita tolak tepi kejap, itulah moment rejection.
Jadi, masa kita memilih buku komik yang kita tak tau langsung aper konten, saper pelukis, etc. selalu ader moment 'penerimaan' dan 'penolakan'.

Aper yg buat seseorang tu decided to accept or to reject?
Kalu gambar lawa, apa yang lawa? Camner yang lawa dalam perspective sendiri? Apa yang awak rasa lawa dari gambar komik tu? etc.

(ini setakat contoh jer, tak semestinya mcm yg sy tulis ini)

Pemahaman mengenai “Lawa” bergantung pada masyarakat. Komik itu lawa kerna ceritanya, lawa kerna gayanya, lawa kerna printing dia.

Lawa dari segi perasaan bersih, dari segi penghasilan, gaya lukisan dan garisan.

Lawa dari segi ideanya cam komik “brutal” dan ganas ia dihasilkan bukan dengan cara yg ganas atau brutal tapi rupa Karya yang boleh dirasai ganas dan brutal

Lawa kerana lain drpd yang lain. Gaya yang rare, uncommon tapi dihasilkan dengan baik. Dan itu yang dicari pembaca.

Lawa kerna rasa patriotik/nationalisma Gila-Gila, Ujang dan etc.

Lawa kerna rasa maju dan membangun komik US dan Jepun(Contoh)

Lawa kerna dah belanja sampai ratus untuk komik Watchmen.

[blichius1963]

Anugerah Pekomik, Anugerah muzik dan etc. usaha untuk “mengObjektifkan” seni.

Sebenarnya saya ada minat nak buat cerita usahawan keropok lekor, tak buat research lagi.

Contoh:- feeqry dia tutor engineering, dah tahu dia “pakar” bab itu, jadi saya minta dia buat cerita engineering.

Saya suka Ekonomi, perdagangan, akademik, sistem komunikasi, kejuruteraan, sukan, perkilangan, public maintenance, kaji cuaca, pertanian, penternakan, perikanan, kajian, perubatan, construction, interior design, architecture, dan perkara-perkara yang berkaitan dengan pembangunan dan kemajuan negara Malaysia. (Politik, tidak mahu kerana alasan tertentu)

cukup tidak? Jangan kata pula perkara2 diatas terlalu banyak limitasi pula.

cm sial..aku x offer pape pn kt ko.. 
citer ape pn yg ko nk wt depend ats ko sndri..aku malas nk amik taw..cuma ko xpaham lg maksud ayat aku kt ats..senang citer ko amik citer dark knight..xperlu xplain sume benda dlm satu filem..tipikal storyline..tp perkembangn plot dan watak yg sngt menarik..cmne srg DA yg didewakan di awl citer akhirnya jadi jahat cm babi..amik formula ni n apply lk dlm komik..mnkn ko boleh draft dulu citer yg ko nk..katakn ko nk wt citer based on military dr sudut enginering..cmne ko nk kaitkn dunia engineering ngn military?..dr situ ko leh amik formula lain plk..bila da jmp kaitan tu kena fkir lk target audience..klu target ko bdk2 sekolah mnkn ko boleh amik formula doreamon lk..stakat ko ckp aku nk wt citer engineering sesape pn boleh..sbb tu aku suh ko draft dulu citer yg ko nk pastu baru diskas perkembangn plot dan watak..

Cuba buat story 6page bagi pada saya. Saya lukis. Kemudian saya hantar pada ArtSquare. Diterima, bayaran semua kamu ambil. Ahli pergh saksi. Okey bagi kamu?

adakah ko cukup hebat, offer sesape saje wt citer utk ko dgn offer keseluruhan duit??..sape ko ni nk org percaya 100%??..ko ingt aku xpernah kena tipu??..unless ko ckp amik sume duit dan akwok pn ats nama aku..baru la senang nk percaya..soryla aku xtaw cmne bayaran dibuat utk pembuat komik ni..

edit:

mnkn cara yg lebih baik ko bkk satu thread khas utk mncari penulis cite..letak portfolio ko skali..spesifik kn dulu citer yg ko nk ex: engineering

contoh ayat:

salam kwn2 pergh..aku nk cari penulis citer utk komik aku..aku ingt nk wt citer engineering..klu leh biar ade kaitan ngn military sbb aku da lama minat nazi..aku suka cmne diorng wt serangn blitzkrieg..blablabla..sampai org paham apa yg ko nk drp ko duk memekak sana sini..klu ade yg brminat mnkn ko leh pm org tu atau klu rase perlu lg teruskn diskas kt thread ko tuh..

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