Author Topic: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu  (Read 40368 times)

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Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu
« on: October 08, 2009, 12:46:50 AM »
Aku nak tanya nih Kenapa dalam Komik Cerita Purbawara....

Senjata Seperti Keris dan Parang selalu ditonjolkan....

Tak Kan Orang Melayu Dulu kalau bertempur Jarak Dekat (close combat) atau Berperang di Medan perang cuma pakai Keris atau Parang jer ?


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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 09:34:15 AM »
dulu aku membayangkan org melayu berperang guna keris je. x terbayang oleh aku org melayu perang guna pedang. hehehe!

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2009, 09:41:48 AM »
jangan kau klaim indonesia punya. :)): :guling:
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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2009, 09:44:26 AM »
kan ker keris tu dah lame dorang claim dorang punya

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2009, 02:02:27 PM »
menarik topik nih...

pedang dan sundang memang ada di gunakan sebagai alatan bertempur..untuk perang.
until tday..YEAHHH we keep on trying (*bak kata Queen)..."tak yah Cakap jer...BElaSAh JERRRR!!"
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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2009, 02:18:09 PM »
best topik nih, bleh buat ref utk komikus

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2009, 03:12:21 PM »


tapi org zaman dulu letak pedang kat belakang macam ni ke?

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2009, 03:24:06 PM »
Yup! A very good point. A few years back aku gi melawat muzium kecik yg kat atas Bukit Melawati, Kuala Selangor. Ade la a few collection pedang, baju perang, perisai yg designnya aku pun kagum ade kat sini masa zaman pemerintahan awal Kesultanan Selangor. Design mostly style Bugis la. Keris & tombak tu kira standard la.

p/s: Senjata gempak2 pun tapi ramai pendekar yg tak lut senjata time tu, tak bleh jln gak.. Heheheh! Agaknya sbb Jepun takde ilmu kebal la maka tumpuan dibagi lebih kat keefisiennan senjatanya. Aku agak je la.. Hahah!
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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 03:27:49 PM »
pasni leh wat battle redesign keris lembing tombak plak

> zaman dulu yang kebal senjata berapa kerat je. kalau ramai pendekar melayu masa tu dalam 1000 org ke (wat liga pendekar2 hehe) dah cukup kot halau jepun dari malaya hehehe
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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2009, 03:30:35 PM »
pinjam ayat Godinho de Eredia tentang senjata melayu.

The arms which they ordinarily use in warfare are the sword, shield, lance, bows and arrows, and blow-pipes with poisoned darts. At the present day, in consequence of intercourse with us, they use muskets and ordnance.

   The sword, a blade measuring 5 palms in length, is called Padan among them: like the Turkish sword, it has a single edge. The dagger, called Cris a blade measuring 2 palms in length, is made of fine steel; it bears a deadly poison; the sheath is of wood., the hilt is of animals' horn, or of rare stone, or of gold and precious gems.

   The steel is treated in such a way that every injury is followed by immediate death when the wound draws blood. Iron, being constituted of earthy material, and of a substance which is more malleable than other metals (as Aristotle notes Aleteorologica ch. 6. in 4 Meteorelogica, chapter 6) yields a large quantity of rust and dross. So the natives soak the iron in water and in muddy pools for some time: they then treat it in the fire, refining it till the iron is clean and pure - a method mentioned by Pliny in Book 34 chapter 14.

   Then, after polishing the blade of steel, they smear it with a poison so deadly that death soon ensues after any injury which draws blood, wherever inflicted.

   So these Malayos use much poison on all their weapons, especially the points of arrows, whether made of iron or wood, or the teeth of animals or fish, or of "nyboes " ('nibong').

   Their bows are larger than the bows of Persia.

   The lance called "azagaya " is 10 palms in length: these lances are much used as missiles.

   There are other lances, as much as 25 palms long: besides a great number of " soligues " made of " nyboes and used as missiles.

   Their artillery, as a rule, is not heavy: formerly they used mortars and swivel-guns made of various metals: to-day they employ larger pieces, and battery-cannon, besides many kinds of fire-arms, including small arms and arquebuses. Regarding the employment of artillery amongst the, Malayos, we know that on the conquest of Malaca in the year 1511, Affonco de Alboquerque captured much small artillery, esmerils, falconets, and medium-sized sakers: these could not have come from Meca in Arabia where they use larger pieces of the second order, such as battery-cannon: probably these came from Pegu and Syam, where they had an establishment for casting smaller artillery, of the first order, and a foundry for every other kind of metal-work; this thev had learnt from the Attayos and the Chinas, who first introduced artillery, which was invented after the rebellions against the Empire of Attay or Cattay.

Godinho de Eredia laporan tamat :jayman:


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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 03:45:04 PM »
Err.. Mr Tawel, bleh tumpang tanya.. siapakah gerangan Godinho de Eredia tersebut? Tima kasih. By the way, nice info.
"The sacred month is for the sacred month, and for violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who fear Him." (Al Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah 2:194)

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 04:10:18 PM »
de Eredia ialah seorang anak jati Melaka (he was born in Malacca on 15th July 1563)

nama penuh beliau Emanuel Godinho de Eredia dan beliau adalah seorang ahli sejarah yang menulis buku ini:

'''1613 - Description of Malaca and Meridional India and Cathay in Three Treatises''' dedicated to the King, Dom Phelippe at Goa, 24th November, 1613.

dilahirkan kedunia oleh seorang mubaligh Portugis Juan de Eredia dan ibunya seorang puteri bugis dari Makassar, bernama kristiannya Dona Elena Vessiva.

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 05:15:53 PM »
aku penah baca sultan melaka mengarahkan hang tuah ke turki untuk membeli meriam bagi meningkatkan pertahanan melaka.
melaka juga terkenal dengan angkatan laut yang kuat,
mesti melaka ada kapal perang can black pearl

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2009, 05:16:59 PM »
ayah aku ade simpan beberapa bilah pedang
rupenye macam ini la...
ni bermakna org melayu dulu mmg ade pedang

sesekali try gak gaya samurai ngn pedang tu
haha

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 07:42:17 PM »
pedang negeri kedah tu macam style pedang arab

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 08:07:50 PM »
orang melayu memang dah lama pakai pedang...cuma diorang panggil nama lain je...sensitif ler.

ni aku punya...



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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 08:22:03 PM »
x paham kenapa en.tawel mngatakan ianya sensitif??  :argh:

tu gambar parang tebas rumput ke?

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 08:26:35 PM »
oh agak sensitif memanggilnya pedang dan lagi ada legal consequenses.. bayangkan polis terjumpa 'pedang' dalam kereta. Thats why kita panggil parang tebas rumput. (memang pun hehe)


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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 08:44:06 PM »
pedang = matanya di kedua belah sisi
parang = matanya sebelah sisi je

defini bg aku la .
nanti aku check kamus dewan

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Re: Senjata Orang Melayu Zaman Dahulu Di Dalam Komik
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2009, 08:46:28 PM »
pedang boleh ada dua mata atau satu mata je...depend mcm mana guna la. Pedang jepun mata sebelah je ...pedang eropah dua belah..pedang samurai x terbalik di belakang..ada macam2 pedang.